AA: Cult of a Stolen God
Most all cults are leaches on the backs of a successful religion. They twist the religion to work for their purposes and not that of what it was intended for.
- AA is the only way.
- No one graduates form AA.
- AA or you will Die. B. Willson
- You must completely follow the doctrine of 12 steps and Big Book or you will fail.
- We will be your God.
{Websters: Cult
- 3: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious ; also : its body of adherents
- 4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator
- 5 a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work ; especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b:the object of such devotion c: a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion
I answered this test to see if your in a cult with what I personally and by study have found to be true of AA:
The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive
or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.
or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.
- 12 steps are law, the only way to sobriety and are concidered laws you must live by. Bill Williams and very successful leaders are followed and spoke of, as spiritual guides. Also, you never talk bad about bill.
Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
- If you are court cohursed they will try to send you to jail openly by bad reports to your paroll officer – witch they are doing to one member of my group now. if you continue to be disagreeable or protest on religious terms, witch is what he is trying to do, you will be eventually the dirty duck of the group. I know this from experience.
Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
- You are to by meditate and pray for spiritual awakening if you are to be a active member. You are to work for the group to return the favor. There are also chants and group prayer.
The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry—or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).
- You are constantly told not to trust your mind, you are not in a state to trust your mind so you submit to the mind of the group and sponser. You are to break ties with old friends, they say you will probaly be distanced from your wife and family if you follow the big book corectly. Your sponser gives advice on every part of your life. You are not to date for one year acording to big book, or start any relationships of any kind. Combined with suggestions (laws ) that you break ties with anyone that could be a jeopardy to your sobriety – including family and friends. Of course you are told how to think act and feel… thats what it’s all about. (don’t trust your mind, let go and let God, submit to it and you will see)
The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).
- Bill Williams said he was on a mission to save the world, and many elitist (megalomaniac) things. The group believes it is the way the truth and the light. and they use those exsact words just in different order, and times. The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conict with the wider society. Moderation Management a group aposed to AA is hated by AA. There is no other way and any other way is false.
The leader is not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations).
- AA owns the courts and hospitols and the minds of the people, yet they answer to no one not even a hierarchy of other untrained counselors. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members’ participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities). Means to a end is what AA teaches. Just try it and you will see that it works, if you disagree with the spiritual principles. Just fake it till you believe it. Many people appose the religious nature of the group at first only to join the group-think after weeks of deep emotional bonding and indoctrination.
The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
- A hard one to pinpoint. But I do here them talk about peoples problems when they are not there, like, “I don’t think he’s strong enough to make it” or “he is resisting the only thing that will save him”. My Leader said out loud that he believes in the power of shame. I think the longer you are there you would start to see this used on you. Not on the newcomers though. Plus shame is the game in AA, you are to admit that you are a addict every group to replay and identify yourself always, as the one thing that AA is supposed to be curing you of…. but I guess if you were cured you wouldn’t need AA right? so that can’t happen. Basically there is no hope for you but AA for the rest of your life.
And think about these passive aggressive statements in there opening statement each group.
- “people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple program, usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. There are such unfortunates. They are not at fault; they seem to have been born that way. They are naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner of living which demands rigorous honesty. Their chances are less than average. There are those, too, who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders, but many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest.”- AA Big Book
Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.
- Big book says to cut ties, and radically alter your life around AA. They are your new friends they are your new activities director. There is the 90/90 (90 days of 90 meetings). The no dating or new relationship policy and the encouragement to attend many meetings for the rest of your life.
The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
Step 12. Evangelize to alcoholics. the gospel of AA. A must if you are to follow all the steps completely.
Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.
- Same as above AA is your new friends cause you have cut o your old life. The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group. Shame is used if you try to leave ( and they have the emotional amo on you because you spilled your guts for two years in the meetings). There are no graduates from AA is a very popular saying, you will die with AA because you will die if you don’t stay with AA.
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